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Short & Curly

Short & Curly is the fun and educational ABC Kids and Family podcast that makes philosophy and ethics easy, entertaining, and thought-provoking. Hosted by Molly Daniels, Carl Smith, and philosopher Eleanor Gordon-Smith, the show explores big questions for kids about right and wrong, fairness, truth, knowledge, logic, beauty, and art.

Perfect for kids aged 8–12, Short & Curly is loved by families, parents, and teachers worldwide. One of the best kids shows for curious minds, it inspires learning, laughter, and big ideas that help children learn how to think, not what to think.

Created by the ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corporation), trusted makers of award-winning children's content.

Binge this free educational ABC kids podcast series on the ABC listen app (Australia) or wherever you get your podcasts worldwide

Classroom Resources: Listen to the podcast in the classroom or as homework and use these resources to explore and expand upon the diverse themes and subjects covered in the show.

Oct 01 2026 | 00:23:00

We’re travelling back to the stellar 1970s and Carl has spotted a totally far-out skateboard seemingly abandoned at the local skate park. Can he just… take it? When does finders keepers apply, and how much do we need to worry about the ‘losers weepers’ bit? 

Sep 30 2026 | 00:23:00

Molly’s newly adopted son Carl Smith Hyphen Daniels Jnr does NOT want to play the violin. He says it’s boring, and hurts his fingers. But Mamma Molly knows best. Why is it that parents can tell us what to do?  

Sep 29 2026 | 00:22:00

Commonalia is an idyllic paradise, and all the happy pixies that call Commonalia home spend their days exploring the grand forest. The trees of the forest have healing powers, their seeds can be used for medicine, and their branches used to build furniture and homes. But one day soon, the forest will disappear and Commonalia will be destroyed. What could possibly go wrong? And whose fault is it? 

Sep 28 2026 | 00:23:00

You can see 5 dogs playing in a park, you can hold 5 lollies, and you can be 5 years old. But is the number 5 itself real? Molly, Carl and Eleanor head on a road trip to find the number 5, and try to figure out what it even means for something to be real. 

Sep 27 2026 | 00:23:00

After five years of brutal fighting, Carl and Molly have defeated all the zombies on planet Earth, including the zombified version of their Producer, Kyla. But is that zombie still Kyla? And what would it mean if that zombie was Kyla… should that make a difference to how we treat them? 

Sep 16 2026 | 00:10:01

Short & Curly will be back very soon, but while you're waiting you should check out the podcast Wait... They Did What!? 

Just like Short and Curly, Wait... They Did What!? examines some ethical conundrums and questionable behaviour. Like in the 1960s when Indigenous people were forced to work practically for free on land that was stolen from them. 

Hosted by Tilly Oddy-Black and Issac Muller, Wait... They Did What!? Takes us back in time to when kids were allowed to let off fireworks, seatbelts weren’t compulsory and teachers could even hit kids! 

For more great kids podcasts, download the free ABC listen app (Australia). There you’ll find more kids news podcasts, educational children’s stories and storytelling, podcasts from your favourite characters like Bluey and Hey Duggee and plenty more of the best kids podcasts like Imagine This, Dino Dome and News Time. For all ages from 0–4-year-olds, 5–8-year-olds, 8–10-year-olds, tweens and teens. And you can watch our kids shows on ABC iview and on the ABC Kids and ABC Big Kids channels of YouTube kids. 

Jul 16 2026 | 00:03:12

It feels soooo nice staying in your comfort zone – it's so comfortable there! But stepping and stretching outside your comfort zone is an important part of life. Is it right when schools or parents push us to do things outside our comfort zone, before we’re ready? Or is a gentle push sometimes the only thing that will get us moving? 

Jul 15 2026 | 00:03:41

It was supposed to be the greatest day of Carl’s life – finally, his parents said he was old enough to go on the big dipper ride at the fun park. But! Carl’s parents let his little sister go on the ride the same day! Is it fair that she only had to wait to be 8-years-old, but Carl had to wait to be 10?  How do we tell the difference between something being truly unfair, and something just... making us feel jealous? 

Jul 14 2026 | 00:02:45

Names are really important things – they form such a big part of our identities. But for people with less common names, or names with uncommon spellings, it can get really exhausting constantly correcting people's pronunciation. How important is it that we pronounce people's names correctly, and how annoyed can we be when people get ours wrong? 

Jul 13 2026 | 00:03:54

There are heaps of seemingly cool places that kids aren’t allowed to visit – fancy resorts, or sometimes even rock concerts. Most of the time we accept these rules, but are they actually unfair? And if we were to let kids into adult places, would we have to start letting adults in kids' spaces?  

Jul 12 2026

That’s right Curly Crew, we’re going there. We’re answering the big kahuna, the ultimate question – what is the meaning of life? 

No spoilers here! But it definitely involves snacks, I reckon.

Mar 31 2026 | 00:22:08

At Camp Short & Curly, the marshmallows are toasty, the swings are wild, and Molly’s Amazing Cool Book Club is about to begin — but her stories? YIKES! From creepy sea witches to thumb-chopping tailors, why were some old fairy tales so weird and scary?  

A quick warning: this episode includes some old fairytales which are pretty gross, dark and scary sometimes – they even mention violence and death. If you’re not in the mood for that, it might be a good idea to listen to a different episode instead.  

Mar 31 2026 | 00:24:03

In this epic musical retelling of The Emperor’s New Clothes, Molly and Carl take you deep into a kingdom where following fashion rules and telling the truth is harder than it looks. There’s a sneaky tailor, an emperor who’s obsessed with her wardrobe, and a whole crowd pretending to see invisible clothes — until one brave kid says what everyone’s thinking.  

Mar 31 2026 | 00:20:56

Why are wolves always the villains in old European fairy tales? And is it OK to stereotype animals, or people for that matter? To investigate, Molly, Carl and Eleanor head off on a fairytale research trip to the snowy forests of Germany. But their adventure takes a spooky turn when they get lost on the way back to their hotel in the woods, with just one little torch to guide them...

Mar 31 2026 | 00:23:03

Short & Curly's world-famous investigative journalist Molly Daniels uncovers a juicy fairytale scandal full of royal drama, magical gold, and a very peculiar little man named... Rumpelstiltskin. But things get serious too— what if a promise you make is made under pressure? Do you still have to keep it? 

Mar 31 2026 | 00:22:01

A group of ducklings decide one of their own just doesn’t fit in. He can’t keep up with their games, and — let’s be honest — kind of ruins the vibe. But is it fair to leave someone out just because they don’t have rizz? And is it even possible to create a close-knit group of friends without turning someone else into an outsider? 

Mar 24 2026 | 00:05:15

Molly and Carl are celebrating a special anniversary... and you are, too!

Happy 10th birthday Curly Crew, thanks for all your curly questions and phenomenal feedback. 

(And get excited for a new season, dropping soon!)

Dec 18 2025 | 00:03:31

Molly’s just an itsy bitsy cutesy spider, but Carl is freaking out! Lots of people are scared of spiders. In fact, people can be scared of a whole range of things you might find surprising, like a fear of clowns or paper or pancakes. But is that OK?

Dec 17 2025 | 00:03:30

Cars that drive themselves are no longer just something you’d see in a sci-fi movie… they’re on roads and highways right around the world. But what should happen if something goes wrong? Whose fault would it be – the passenger? The manufacturer? The... car itself?!

Dec 16 2025 | 00:03:02

Who’s in charge at school? Why, that would be the teachers. And who is in charge at home? Your parents or carers. Who is in charge of running the country? Politicians, that’s who. And what do they all have in common?! They’re all grown-ups! How is that fair?!

Dec 15 2025 | 00:03:43

As long as kitties have been meowing, and puppies have been prowling, people have asked - which is better, Cats or Dogs? Finally, the Short & Curly crew tackle this colossal question... but is it even a philosophical question?

Dec 14 2025 | 00:03:37

Molly is having a party so she’s invited over the usual gang – Carl, Eleanor, Tony Ravioli and… the Joker! Batman’s nemesis!! And he’s not a great guy, what with all the crimes he’s committed in Gotham City. Is Molly making the right call here?

Should you judge people because of who they’re friends with?

Thanks to Violet for this quirky conundrum. 

Oct 01 2025 | 00:22:30

We test for everything: to get a licence, to move to the next grade, to prove you're ready to use a pen. But when it comes to becoming a biological parent, there's no test to pass. Should there be? Would a parenting test be a good idea?

Brains Trust — Gibbs Street Public School, Perth: Fitzroy, Shahla, Jorja, Nafi, Tabitha, Gumaan

Listen to Short & Curly, the fun and educational ABC kids podcast about philosophy and ethics. Join hosts Molly Daniels, Carl Smith, and philosopher Eleanor Gordon-Smith as they explore big questions about right and wrong, fairness, truth, knowledge, logic, beauty and art.

Perfect for tweens aged 8–12, families, and teachers, Short & Curly is one of the best kids shows for curious minds.

  • Combines storytelling, philosophy, and comedy
  • Perfect for school listening, car trips, or family discussions
  • Created by the ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corporation), trusted makers of award-winning children's content

Binge this free educational ABC kids podcast series on the ABC listen app (Australia) or wherever you get your podcasts worldwide

Sep 30 2025 | 00:20:06

We all have thoughts about other people that we’d never say aloud. But do our private thoughts say something about the kind of people we are? Or is it only our actions that count? 

Brains Trust - Gibbs Street Public School, Perth: Layla, Avjot, Johanna, Imogen, Sampada, Claudia.

Listen to Short & Curly, the fun and educational ABC kids podcast about philosophy and ethics. Join hosts Molly Daniels, Carl Smith, and philosopher Eleanor Gordon-Smith as they explore big questions about right and wrong, fairness, truth, knowledge, logic, beauty and art.

Perfect for tweens aged 8–12, families, and teachers, Short & Curly is one of the best kids shows for curious minds. 

  • Combines storytelling, philosophy, and comedy
  • Perfect for school listening, car trips, or family discussions
  • Created by the ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corporation), trusted makers of award-winning children’s content

Binge this free educational ABC kids podcast series on the ABC listen app (Australia) or wherever you get your podcasts worldwide

Sep 30 2025 | 00:23:00

Ever walked past a spray-painted wall and thought, "That's actually really cool and beautiful!" But is it art or just stylish vandalism? Molly and Carl grab some spray cans and dive into the messy, colourful world of graffiti to ask: when does a rebellious scribble become art, and who gets to decide?

Brains Trust — Gibbs Street Public School, Perth: Fitzroy, Shahla, Jorja, Nafi, Tabitha, Gumaan

Listen to Short & Curly, the fun and educational ABC kids podcast about philosophy and ethics. Join hosts Molly Daniels, Carl Smith, and philosopher Eleanor Gordon-Smith as they explore big questions about right and wrong, fairness, truth, knowledge, logic, beauty and art.

Perfect for tweens aged 8–12, families, and teachers, Short & Curly is one of the best kids shows for curious minds.

  • Combines storytelling, philosophy, and comedy
  • Perfect for school listening, car trips, or family discussions
  • Created by the ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corporation), trusted makers of award-winning children's content

Binge this free educational ABC kids podcast series on the ABC listen app (Australia) or wherever you get your podcasts worldwide

Sep 30 2025 | 00:20:30

There's wild surf at the beach today, but people are still choosing to swim outside the area patrolled by lifeguards. If those swimmers get into trouble out there, should other people put themselves at risk to save them? Or does ignoring the warnings mean you're on your own?

Brains Trust — Gibbs Street Public School, Perth: Fitzroy, Shahla, Jorja, Nafi, Tabitha, Gumaan

Listen to Short & Curly, the fun and educational ABC kids podcast about philosophy and ethics. Join hosts Molly Daniels, Carl Smith, and philosopher Eleanor Gordon-Smith as they explore big questions about right and wrong, fairness, truth, knowledge, logic, beauty and art.

Perfect for tweens aged 8–12, families, and teachers, Short & Curly is one of the best kids shows for curious minds.

  • Combines storytelling, philosophy, and comedy
  • Perfect for school listening, car trips, or family discussions
  • Created by the ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corporation), trusted makers of award-winning children's content

Binge this free educational ABC kids podcast series on the ABC listen app (Australia) or wherever you get your podcasts worldwide

Sep 30 2025 | 00:20:30

Most dogs are loving companions, but what about the ones that bite, bark, or cause chaos? Is a dog's bad behaviour their own fault or is it down to the way they were raised? From neglected pups to misunderstood mutts, we dig into the debate: Who's really responsible when a dog goes rogue, and what should we do about it?

Brains Trust — Gibbs Street Public School, Perth: Layla, Avjot, Johanna, Imogen, Sampada, Claudia.

Listen to Short & Curly, the fun and educational ABC kids podcast about philosophy and ethics. Join hosts Molly Daniels, Carl Smith, and philosopher Eleanor Gordon-Smith as they explore big questions about right and wrong, fairness, truth, knowledge, logic, beauty and art.

Perfect for tweens aged 8–12, families, and teachers, Short & Curly is one of the best kids shows for curious minds.

  • Combines storytelling, philosophy, and comedy
  • Perfect for school listening, car trips, or family discussions
  • Created by the ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corporation), trusted makers of award-winning children's content

Binge this free educational ABC kids podcast series on the ABC listen app (Australia) or wherever you get your podcasts worldwide

Apr 01 2025 | 00:24:00

The line between truth and deception can be blurry. Is leaving out important information a lie? What about misleading gestures, or half-truths? Babysitting Matt's kids force Molly and Carl to confront these complexities firsthand as they lie to get out of tricky situations.

Summer Hill Public School: Dimitri, Mia, Teddy, Milla, Cleo, Marcus

Apr 01 2025 | 00:22:12

Join Molly and Carl as they valiantly attempt a world record sailing around the globe on their boat, the Theseus. Faced with a constant need for boat repairs, they are forced to confront a perplexing question: how many changes can you make to something before it's no longer the same thing it started out as?

South Wagga Public School: Noah, Lucas, Jasmine, Hunter, Olivia

Apr 01 2025 | 00:21:30

Molly and Carl visit Greece in search of the mythical "Scroll of Rights and Wrongs", an ancient guide written by the smartest person to have ever lived: Adamantia The Wise*. The elusive ancient text contains the ultimate guide to morality, but what does it say?

South Wagga Public School: Noah, Lucas, Jasmine, Hunter, Olivia

*definitely not a real person and very much the invention of Molly & Carl.

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